tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528619746014060177.post6148082784443377977..comments2023-10-26T10:07:09.186-04:00Comments on Learning to Balance: Man! I feel Like a Woman! Or not.....Learnerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15089164231281806023noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528619746014060177.post-38859305146562380932009-05-05T15:18:00.000-04:002009-05-05T15:18:00.000-04:00Oh...woMEN troubles....sorry dudeOh...woMEN troubles....sorry dudeLearnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15089164231281806023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528619746014060177.post-84760743658263569222009-05-05T14:27:00.000-04:002009-05-05T14:27:00.000-04:00WoMEN troubles.Wo<STRONG>MEN</STRONG> troubles.Rocihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04019342315317562988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528619746014060177.post-52996286653202755352009-05-05T13:25:00.000-04:002009-05-05T13:25:00.000-04:00Thanks for the reply Roci, and your patience with ...Thanks for the reply Roci, and your patience with my questions. <br /><br />I don't think I ever read your blog, which is a shame for me because it would have been interesting, I am sure. I'm sorry about your blog/woman troubles.Learnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15089164231281806023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528619746014060177.post-73213904782451268912009-05-05T09:02:00.000-04:002009-05-05T09:02:00.000-04:00Learner:
By profession I am in the business of p...Learner:<br /> By profession I am in the business of process improvement. So I certainly believe there is a place for pointing out issues. That place ought to be logicaly focused on measurable improvement, not on the unquantifiable and dubiously beneficial like "empowerment" and "equality".<br /><br />Kathy,<br /> I had a blog. I couldn't keep my big mouth shut when needed and hurt the people I loved. Summary: Women troubles.Rocihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04019342315317562988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528619746014060177.post-34534367571519727812009-05-04T22:39:00.000-04:002009-05-04T22:39:00.000-04:00EW,
It is pretty annoying. Around the same time ...EW,<br /><br />It is pretty annoying. Around the same time I noticed that when I post a picture on my blog that instead of the picture appearing in the message body, the html stuff appears in the "new post" window.Learnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15089164231281806023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528619746014060177.post-20865870949048575312009-05-03T01:14:00.000-04:002009-05-03T01:14:00.000-04:00"Does anyone know why recently when I use html cod...<I>"Does anyone know why recently when I use html code to put a quote in italics and then hit return a few times and add a comment that the comment squashes itself up against the quote in italics? It didn't used to do that."<br /></I>I don't know why, but it's doing it pretty much everywhere to everyone as far as I can tell.Elusive Wapitihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16825547465295622621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528619746014060177.post-37717951132619546902009-05-02T00:40:00.000-04:002009-05-02T00:40:00.000-04:00Catwoman,
Hmm....so when you said "Maybe there's a...Catwoman,<br />Hmm....so when you said "Maybe there's a difference in the perception of those target groups." you meant how the groups are perceived by others, not how they perceive themselves...I see.Learnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15089164231281806023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528619746014060177.post-57157259726652491972009-05-01T23:54:00.000-04:002009-05-01T23:54:00.000-04:00"So you are saying American women with the same le..."So you are saying American women with the same level of education as Canadian women percieve a greater degree of descrimination?"<br /><br />No. I'm not talking about how those target groups perceive the degree of discrimination they do or do not experience. I'm talking about how the general public perceives the degree of discrimination those groups do or do not experience.catwomannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528619746014060177.post-39133634521796143112009-05-01T21:14:00.000-04:002009-05-01T21:14:00.000-04:00Hi Kathy,
If you lived closer I'd definitely teac...Hi Kathy,<br /><br />If you lived closer I'd definitely teach you to sew! :)Learnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15089164231281806023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528619746014060177.post-52835297316473739612009-05-01T21:13:00.000-04:002009-05-01T21:13:00.000-04:00Catwoman,
So you are saying American women with t...Catwoman,<br /><br />So you are saying American women with the same level of education as Canadian women percieve a greater degree of descrimination?Learnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15089164231281806023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528619746014060177.post-32707449645131217322009-05-01T20:38:00.000-04:002009-05-01T20:38:00.000-04:00Hi ya L.
I'm fine.
You'd love our weather here a...Hi ya L.<br />I'm fine.<br /> You'd love our weather here at the moment. It's going to hover around 82-85 degrees for the next week. <br />It's a beautiful, still crisp morning. Sun is shining, birds are singing.<br /><br />Have just fed the one legged Raven that turns up on my porch at meal times(well, anytime really, 'cause he is always hungry!)I'm a sucker for strays and injured animals. I once cared for a one eyed female Australian Magpie Lark. Had to have her put down in the end as the other birds would attack her. It would have been cruel to keep this wild bird in a cage.<br /><br />Anyhow, I'm rambling. The kids are still asleep.( Yippee)Peace and quiet for another hour, maybe.<br /><br /> I've had my coffee Now it's time to "make hay while the sun shines"<br />put on a load of washing and stitch up shirts that my son ripped whilst at school this week(don't ask!)<br /> As you know I can't sew very well.<br /> Now, if only you lived closer L, I could have popped over to your place for a few sewing lessons..Lol!<br /><br />Hope you guys are enjoying some beautiful spring weather..<br /><br /><br />End of ramble..Kathy Farrellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16532126739204105127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528619746014060177.post-90097049435592149512009-05-01T16:41:00.000-04:002009-05-01T16:41:00.000-04:00"Why would the number of educated women have anyth..."Why would the number of educated women have anything to do with affirmative action?"<br /><br />I would surmise that the general public would be less likely to support affirmative action if they perceive target groups (like visible minorities and women) as not really disadvantaged. Because there are so many well-educated entrepreurial immigrants from Asia who succeed economically without special treatment, Canadians are less likely to think that affirmative action programs for visible minorities are justified. Same for women, since so many of them living in our cities are well-educated, it's like, they're doing fine, why should they get any special help? <br /><br />"I wonder because I doubt there is much difference in the level of education between Canadian and American women, so why would it influence Canada and not the US?"<br /><br />Maybe there's a difference in the perception of those target groups.catwomannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528619746014060177.post-8570836244189682912009-05-01T13:55:00.000-04:002009-05-01T13:55:00.000-04:00Roci,
Hmm, so you don't think there is a place fo...Roci,<br /><br />Hmm, so you don't think there is a place for pointing out issues? Or is it that you think that it is useless to do so?Learnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15089164231281806023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528619746014060177.post-9349186686221781342009-05-01T13:49:00.000-04:002009-05-01T13:49:00.000-04:00Hi Kathy,
:) How's it going?Hi Kathy,<br /><br />:) How's it going?Learnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15089164231281806023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528619746014060177.post-24689044708999643442009-05-01T09:27:00.000-04:002009-05-01T09:27:00.000-04:00I love your honesty, sincerity and common sense ap...I love your honesty, sincerity and common sense approach, Roci.<br />And, your cheeky sense of humor, too!<br /> How come you don't have a blog, mate?Kathy Farrellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16532126739204105127noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528619746014060177.post-16025520111569535132009-05-01T08:42:00.000-04:002009-05-01T08:42:00.000-04:00How I deal with it:
1. I recognize my limitation...How I deal with it:<br /><br />1. I recognize my limitations within the society I live and seek constantly to push the boundaries.<br /><br />2. I seek the opportunities where the limitations are less appearant.<br /><br />3. I do not whine and complain about things that are not under my control (much).<br /><br />4. Despite limitations on financial success and the power I might attain in society, I can still be a valuable friend and contributor in my community.Rocihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04019342315317562988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528619746014060177.post-91667180180647033122009-04-30T21:36:00.000-04:002009-04-30T21:36:00.000-04:00Catwoman,
"there's not much support in Canada for...Catwoman,<br /><br />"there's not much support in Canada for affirmative action, especially since there are so many well-educated immigrants and urban women"<br /><br />Why would the number of educated women have anything to do with affirmative action? I wonder because I doubt there is much difference in the level of education between Canadian and American women, so why would it influence Canada and not the US?Learnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15089164231281806023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528619746014060177.post-30726550877958110942009-04-30T20:33:00.000-04:002009-04-30T20:33:00.000-04:00"Perhaps what women consider a welcoming environme..."Perhaps what women consider a welcoming environment isn't as welcoming from a male point of view as it is from a female point of view?"<br /><br />That could often be the case, with the genders reversed as well.<br /><br />"How much more limited is affirmative action in Canada?" <br /><br />"I see that you guys have the Status of Women Canada, a federal government organization that promotes the status of women. Canada also has the Canadian Employment Equity Act that requires employers to proactively improve employment opportunities for groups including women. In some territories women also get preferential treatment over men when it comes to employment"<br /><br />SWC is pretty small potatoes compared to similar operations in the US. There are no "quotas" with the EEA, which is more about large employers keeping records on employee demographics and coming up with strategies for removing barriers that might hinder the range of applicants for jobs. The territories up north (NWT, Nunavit) have a large Innuit (eskimo) population with limited self-government, so there may be special things they are doing up there. Other than for native peoples, there's not much support in Canada for affirmative action, especially since there are so many well-educated immigrants and urban women. Maybe some isolated ivory tower pockets, but like I say, small potatoes.<br /><br />Come to think of it, when I look at the States, everything seems big, bigger and more, more, more. The cars are bigger, the stadiums are bigger, the people are bigger, there's the super-size thing, even the feminine hygiene products seem to have more perfume in them down there. And the billboards!<br /><br />It sounds like you have a BIGGER kind of FEMINISM going on there, too!catwomannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528619746014060177.post-57924791286773119002009-04-30T14:11:00.000-04:002009-04-30T14:11:00.000-04:00Roci,
"Real men understand that life is not fair ...Roci,<br /><br />"Real men understand that life is not fair and we are not equal. No one is. How you deal with that knowledge is what defines you."<br /><br />How do you suggest a man deal with that knowledge?Learnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15089164231281806023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528619746014060177.post-61706859514058568212009-04-30T13:03:00.000-04:002009-04-30T13:03:00.000-04:00most of us men recognized a long time ago that the...most of us men recognized a long time ago that the drive in the office place for sesitivity and equality was never really about either. Real men understand that life is not fair and we are not equal. No one is. How you deal with that knowledge is what defines you.<br /><br />It does not upset me at all when someone acts true to their character. The very definition of feminism, as well as similar race politics advocates, is "good for me, but none for thee".Rocihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04019342315317562988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528619746014060177.post-23493027512361341672009-04-30T11:03:00.000-04:002009-04-30T11:03:00.000-04:00Thanks for the clarification Roci. I like having ...Thanks for the clarification Roci. I like having men in my profession because I think they have qualities that are good for the profession and good for the people we serve (which include as many men as women). So, I suppose that it annoys me that certain elements in the profession who are so quick to complain about the opression or marginalization of women roll their eyes when a masculine perspective is even considered. It's hypocritical. <br /><br />It is also hypocritical for a profession to call for diversity in their workforce and work to be "culturally competent" and "sensitive to minorities" but then not be willing to consider the perspective of men. <br /><br />I guess I don't find it unrealistic that people not be hypocritical.Learnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15089164231281806023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528619746014060177.post-38597867709800504022009-04-30T09:17:00.000-04:002009-04-30T09:17:00.000-04:00I understood your point as you intended. I was ma...I understood your point as you intended. I was making the additional comment that men who are peeved that their non traditional roles are not being embraced by their profession are acting like women. If they wanted to work in a more gender neutral environment, they should have chosen one. Expecting other people to accomodate your unrealistic expectations is a feminine trait. In a traditional male field, these guys would have been mercilessly ridiculed for their sensitivity about such a meaningless object. Women in sych an environment get placated, but not taken seriously. They more they complain about such trivia, they less seriously they are seen as professionals.Rocihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04019342315317562988noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528619746014060177.post-84847257052277176222009-04-29T23:54:00.000-04:002009-04-29T23:54:00.000-04:00Catwoman,
Perhaps what women consider a welcoming...Catwoman,<br /><br />Perhaps what women consider a welcoming environment isn't as welcoming from a male point of view as it is from a female point of view?<br /><br />How much more limited is affirmative action in Canada? I see that you guys have the Status of Women Canada, a federal government organization that promotes the status of women. Canada also has the Canadian Employment Equity Act that requires employers to proactively improve employment opportunities for groups including women. In some territories women also get preferential treatment over men when it comes to employment (http://www.hr.gov.nt.ca/employment/affirmativeaction/)Learnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15089164231281806023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528619746014060177.post-12007869180126974422009-04-29T23:29:00.000-04:002009-04-29T23:29:00.000-04:00Does anyone know why recently when I use html code...Does anyone know why recently when I use html code to put a quote in italics and then hit return a few times and add a comment that the comment squashes itself up against the quote in italics? It didn't used to do that.Learnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15089164231281806023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6528619746014060177.post-28670284785301191882009-04-29T23:19:00.000-04:002009-04-29T23:19:00.000-04:00Novaseeker,
Thanks for the comment.
In this way,...Novaseeker,<br /><br />Thanks for the comment.<br /><br /><I>In this way, I think it is fair (I know many will disagree, but I think it is fair) to describe *current* feminism as a female power movement: gaining parity or better in previously "male" space, while vigorously defending female advantage (and prohibiting male perspectives) in the current space that is female dominated.</I>I would say that is a fair description.Learnerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15089164231281806023noreply@blogger.com